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Minutes Not Final Until Approved By LGAC
Local Government Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes
February 13, 2004
Room 473, Human Services Building, Salem
Attending
Jerry Burns, DHS Deputy
Assistant Director, Children, Adults and Families, Field
Larry Cole, League
of Oregon Cities
Jean Cowan, Lincoln County Board of
Commissioners
Ron Dodge, Polk County Board of Commissioners
Wendy
VanElverdinghe, Community Action Directors of Oregon
Gina Firman, Association
of Oregon County Mental Health Programs
Irene Fischer-Davidson, Clackamas
County Human Services
David Foster, Oregon Housing and Community
Services
Gordon Fultz, Association of Oregon Counties
Robert Furlow, Douglas County Health & Social
Services
Bobby Greene, Lane County Board of Commissioners
John Hartner, Oregon
Association of Community Corrections Directors
Lisa Joyce, DHS Directors
Office
Barry Kast, DHS Assistant Director, Health
Services
Linda Modrell, Benton County Board of Commissioners
Jim Neely, DHS Deputy
Director
Dan Postrel, DHS Administrative Services
John Swanson, DHS Finance
and Policy Analysis
Jean Thorne, DHS Director James Toews DHS Assistant
Director, Seniors & People with Disabilities
Gillian Wesenberg, Douglas County Commission on Children
and Families
Minutes: Dena Comer, DHS Directors Office
Administration and staff to LGAC
Welcome and introductions/approval of minutes
Jean Cowan called the meeting to order, and rountable introductions were made.
The minutes from the December 12, 2003, meeting were approved.
Elections
ACTION: Moved, seconded, passed: The slate of Linda
Modrell as Chair, and Cowan as Vice-Chair
Directors report
Thorne announced that Vic Todd has been named Assistant Director for Finance
and Policy Analysis (FPA). Todd has managed agency budgets for 14 years, including
serving as FPAs Assistant Deputy Director, and as acting Assistant Director
since August 2003. In Todds absence, John Swanson will provide todays
budget report.
Thorne announced Stephaine Parrish-Taylor as the new Administrator of DHS Office
of Vocational Rehabilitation Services (OVRS). Taylor brings more than 18 years
experience to this position, including 11 years in management. Most
recently, she was manager of the OVRS North Portland field office, and was
selected for her extensive experience and in-depth knowledge of issues affecting
the
disability community. She will begin her new role April 1.
Measure 30 planning
Thorne explained this is a work in progress, and provided an overview of the
appropriation, the loss of tobacco funding, and the reduction impacts to each
DHS cluster. Beginning last month, DHS analyzed the types of costs or savings
it anticipates thus far into the biennium, including considering all federal
guideline options. The bulk of the reductions are due to be taken out of the
Oregon Health Plan (OHP). Planning options at this point include transferring
remaining Senior and People with Disabilities (SPD) savings to OHP, an additional
$8 million Emergency Board (E-Board) special purpose appropriation for a hospital
Standard benefit, and not restoring levels 12 and 13 in SPD. Any of these options
require E-Board approval. A consideration is that any reductions taken in OHP
would result in costs to other program areas.
The Governor outlined his priorities following the Measure 30 election, including
his wish that DHS hold onto the OHP Plus population and services. Toward this
and the reduction requirements, DHS has undertaken many steps to refine its
estimates, including a pseudo-rebalance. Still, its difficult
to know how DHS will accomplish its reduction requirements.
Led by the Governors Office, discussions have occurred with the Medicaid
Managed Care plans and the Hospital Association. The issues include provider
taxes (assuming they are ultimately approved by the federal government) and
any excess that might be applied after rate adjustments and aggregate returns
are made.
Thorne explained that while the Governor would like to keep benefits for mental
health, chemical dependency, and children and pregnant women, his lower priorities
include adult dental and vision. In question is whether or not DHS will be
able
to keep its waivers, and whether or not it will be allowed to keep its prioritized
list. Initial discussions have started with the federal government, but its
difficult to predict success at this point.
As DHS strives to protect as much of the OHP Plus package and clients as possible,
August 1 is the projected reduction implementation date, with reductions in
other budget areas projected for May 1.
Q. If were not successful in holding on to the waiver, can we
still do managed care, particularly in the arena of mental health?
A. Yes
Q. Is DHS planning to go to the E-Board to ask for the transfer of SPD funds?
If so, there are many stakeholders who would be willing to write letters; would
that be helpful?
A. DHS needs to finalize its plan. Also, there is
resistance to not restoring SPD levels 12 and 13; its hard to know for
sure if this will be part of the plan. When it's finalized, the letters would
be helpful.
Gina Firman committed the Association of Oregon Counties, Mental Health Programs
(AOCMHP) to writing such letters once DHS has completed its plan.
Q. If authority wont be forthcoming until the April E-Board,
then how soon would we be getting contract changes and notices to clients
on those
changes?
A. The legal requirement is that notices be sent to clients 30 days prior.
If DHS is allowed to keep its waivers, then the necessary rate changes must
be calculated. DHS will be putting together a communication plan for conveying
changes to clients, and possible written suggestions for alternative resources.
Q. Restoration cannot be done without going to the E-Board, correct?
A. Any time something is transferred from one place to another, the
E-Board
must approve.
Q. Does the provider tax have to be included as part of the discussion in order
to cover the priorities the Governor outlined?
A. Probably
Q. Has the Governors Office or the Legislature informed DHS
of its intent to implement the approximately $100 million in the gap of remaining
reductions
now, or to hold it for use later in the biennium?
A. There is $780 million in
actual lost revenues. The dissappropriation bill identifies $545 million in
specific reductions, which creates a gap. To address
the gap, the Governor first goes to the ending balance, which is approximately
$135 million at this point, leaving approximately $100 million in the gap.
According
to the bill, the Governor would then take across-the-board reductions to
address this, of which $20+ million would come from DHS. This is not being
done at this
point, because if such reductions were taken and the revenue forecast jumps
back up, the additional amount would also have to be added back across-the-board.
The Department of Administrative Services (DAS) will wait until the March and
(possibly) June forecasts, but has put everyone on notice of the potential
reductions
beyond whats already been identified.
Q. If we lose the demonstration waiver, would we lose the Family Health Insurance
Assistance Program (FHIAP)?
A. We would lose the federal match for FHIAP.
Q. Between now and April, are there any ways LGAC members can assist DHS?
A.
By the end of March, DHS should know what can be squeezed out of its budget,
and what the federal government will say about the provider tax. If by then
DHS knows about the managed care tax, it will help in the planning. If not,
the
Governors office will outline what they are willing to attach to certain
sources of revenue.
Q. Of the $89 million, how will LGAC and other partners be involved in identifying
reductions?
A. If additional reductions are needed, discussion can occur at LGAC.
Q. To clarify, regarding the $95 million in projected savings of caseload reduction,
is this something already applied?
A. Yes. It has already been used.
Lisa Joyce informed the group, if it hears something strange, and if any issues
need clarification, they can contact either Vic Todd or her in order to get
the correct answers.
Q. The AOC voted recently to send a letter to the Governor requesting that
the $17.8 million be restored to Community Corrections and caseloads. In that
discussion, was there any recognition of the importance of chemical dependency
and mental health to Community Corrections? In terms of public safety, this
is just as important as caseload issues.
A. The AOC advanced both
to the Governors Office. This is an excellent
point, and one that will be carried forward to the AOCs Human Services
Committee and to AOC leadership.
Q. From the local perspective, it would be very helpful to get budget
information as soon as possible. What is DHS drop date?
A. By
mid-March, DHS should have an idea of what will have to be done. If having
to use provider taxes is included, that is beyond the agencys
control. The E-Board is April 8 & 9, but if there are federal requirements,
it could be longer.
Firman reported that the AOCMHP has been conducting visits around the state,
and the feedback is that if Plus is gone, there are counties who are not sure
if their infrastructure can be held together.
05-07 budget development
Handout #1: DHS Advisory Groups
Handout #2: DHS Groups consulted in budget
development
Handout #3: Timeline for LGAC participation
in DHS 05-07 budget development
Handout #4: State of Oregon Budget Process
Overview
Handout #5: DHS 2003-05 Agency Request
Joyce briefly outlined handouts #1-3, explaining the very short timeline to
develop a set of policy packages, and that DHS has not yet received its budget
instructions from DAS.
Referring to handouts #4 and 5, Swanson outlined the budget development process,
explaining the public piece will begin in April and continue through June.
Handout
#5 is the agency request from the last process. The next bienniums policy
packages must be prepared by July in order to be included in DHS budget
document, which must be prepared by the end of August.
Q. How many of the 188 items listed on the agency request were referred
to the Governors Office?
A. All were part of the agencys request. The shaded items went forward
from the Governors Office.
Q. How will restorations of lost programs be addressed? How do we avoid having
the old programs compete with new programs?
A. DHS could somehow prioritize
a mixture of restorations with the new, but its hard to do that without
first knowing what DAS will do.
Comments from the group included the need for LGAC to be in partnership with
the state to prioritize the items, and the need to meet the changing times and
be on the offensive rather than the defensive in the process.
Thorne suggested that the June LGAC meeting include input from the group on
policy packages and reduction options. Referring to handout #5, Joyce explained
that if anyone would like the policy packages, DHS would make them available.
LGAC purpose
Handout #6: LGACs work?
Handout #7: Making Government Work for
Oregonians: A Plan for Achieving Results-Based Government (Advisory
Committee on Government Performance and Accountability) January, 2004
Possible roles
Modrell opened the discussion by utilizing handout #6 as a guide, and referred
to her roles presentation at the November meeting. She explained that ultimately
she would like to know whether or not LGAC members would be interested in working
on items 1-4 as outlined in the handout, and to identify the scope of that work.
Modrell explained the four ideas listed in the handout, and available tools
for each:
- Item 1: This is actually about what should be done by the community,
the individual, the state, and the local government.
- Item 2: This is a complex idea that would cost a significant amount
of money, but could be an effective way to balance services with community
values and costs.
- Item 3: This involves seeking the most efficient and effective means
of operating a social support system.
- Item 4: This addresses how to build upon strengths to foster resilience.
Gordon Fultz suggested a category for basic minimums, as well as a category
for optional items, adding there may be litigation out there affecting those
minimums.
Cowan commented that Lincoln county has gone through a process similar to
item #2, and while its good, its also difficult. The outcome for
Lincoln County was a prioritized list. The other factor that should be considered
is
whether or not there are cost savings to the general fund budget. She suggested
moving to a management-level discussion to frame issues prior to asking for
community input. She added there is value in establishing for voters the connectivity
between taxes and services, which is critically lacking at this time.
Firman suggested that before a discussion can take place, it would be helpful
to have a list of all the things DHS does, including options and requirements.
This list could then be taken to the communities.
Additional group comments included support for defining LGACs roles,
and the value in outlining what services are required, and who provides them.
Additionally, the suggestion was made that if actions such as these arent
taken, we will remain vulnerable to such directions as benchmarks, outcomes,
etc., none of which have been effectively utilized. Joyce suggested that handout
#7 could be an effective tool, explaining the Governor referred to it many
times
the day after the election.
Joyce further reported that during the initial phases of reorganization DHS
catalogued the different things it does, however mandates were not included.
Group response included a suggestion for a foundational piece such as a spreadsheet,
where different areas could be presented at different venues, depending on the
audience. Identifying unfunded mandates could be useful in budgeting and other
work. DHS is often asked about such unfunded mandates including the Health Insurance
Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), staffing studies, etc.
Foster expressed his willingness to work on items 1 and 4, and Furlow suggested
that whatever process LGAC pursues, it not create work but create a system
for
dialogue so that LGAC can be effective for DHS. Modrell commented that its
the job of County Commissioners to look toward the future. She added that the
ideas outlined here are not necessarily ready to present to anyone in a meaningful
way.
Cowan suggested that the group revisit the four ideas, and a logical next step
is to ask DHS staff to develop one piece of work from which to have a discussion
and generate additional interest.
ACTION: Joyce will prepare an inventory of DHS programs
Linking back to organizations represented at LGAC
Group members described the various ways information is conveyed to and from
the organizations they represent. One method included taking the information
gained at LGAC, particularly that which requires feedback, and discussing it
in relation to the operation of the program(s). While every organization is
different, it is evident the role of information conduit is primary, and the
advice brought to LGAC is the result of collected ideas from various local sources.
With respect to whether or not LGAC members have a relationship with DHS advisory
groups, Thorne referred to handouts #1 and 2 and explained that the most helpful
thing would be a higher-level look at how the pieces fit together. Joyce added
the other purpose of the advisory group list is to communicate how much input
DHS receives, and to dispel the myth that government makes its decisions in
a vacuum.
Fultz commented that DHS LGAC is one of the most effective he has seen.
He suggested an additional, community-development type forum, where state agency
directors sit at the table with local officials to discuss issues. Thorne replied
that such a forum has been considered in the past, but it is dependent upon
the issues.
Modrell suggested that the March meeting include looking at the inventory
Joyce will prepare, and the scope of LGACs work as a continuation of todays
discussion.
Other items
Handout #8: DHS News Release: State names
new head of the Governors Advocacy Office
Thorne announced Gin Denisons retirement from the Governors Advocacy
Office, and Naomi Steenson as her successor. Steenson will begin her new role
on March 1.
Future agenda items
The actual agenda is dependent upon the LGAC Executive Committee meeting.
Next meeting
Date: March 12, 2004
Time: 9:00 AM Noon
Location: Room 473, Human Services Building
If you would like copies of the handouts, contact:
Dena Comer
DHS Directors Office, 4th Floor
500 Summer Street NE, E-15
Salem, OR 97301-1097
Telephone: (503) 945-6843
e-mail: dena.comer@state.or.us
Americans with Disabilities Act Notice: This document is available
in Braille, computer disk, large print or oral presentation by contacting Jessica
Ferge, Department of Human Services, Directors Office, (503) 945-6609,
TTY (503) 947-5330.
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